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This is ridiculous! Offers no answers, and as usual, just blames God for any evil that man may have bought about via his disobedience to God, yet blames God anyway. Typical.
If evil is the necessary result of free-will, then what is so good about free will that “evil” should be necessary? Why not just take our free will away so that we can all good believers?
Because if evil is always produced as a byproduct of free will, then even in our evildoings of blasphemy and skepticism, we are acting in support of the free will that gives your life meaning. So we’re still doing God’s work. Which means we’re still getting into heaven. And we still win.
(unless you think God sub-contracts his work to us and then double-crosses his employees)
I think I have come to the conclusion that many believers (myself included when I was one) are fully aware of the contradictions inherent in their visions of god. He is all powerful, yet fails to wipe Satan from existence and save us all. He is all knowing, yet cannot predict the results of giving us free will. He is all loving, yet inflicts trials of hardship, suffering, and tragedy to test our love for him (to spite knowing the outcome).
To many theists god has no problem containing and understanding these obvious contradictions. Rather than admit the problem, they just wave their hands and say “God can do anything” – like that actually answers any question. It seems God’s very nature allows for contradictions, which of course is illogical. Therefore, by extension, God is illogical.
#1 by Gozz on January 3, 2009 - 7:50 am
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This is ridiculous! Offers no answers, and as usual, just blames God for any evil that man may have bought about via his disobedience to God, yet blames God anyway. Typical.
#2 by askegg on January 3, 2009 - 7:51 am
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So your god cannot predict the result of giving us “free will”?
#3 by TrenchantAtheist on January 5, 2009 - 11:12 am
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Gozz,
If evil is the necessary result of free-will, then what is so good about free will that “evil” should be necessary? Why not just take our free will away so that we can all good believers?
Because if evil is always produced as a byproduct of free will, then even in our evildoings of blasphemy and skepticism, we are acting in support of the free will that gives your life meaning. So we’re still doing God’s work. Which means we’re still getting into heaven. And we still win.
(unless you think God sub-contracts his work to us and then double-crosses his employees)
#4 by askegg on January 5, 2009 - 1:11 pm
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I think I have come to the conclusion that many believers (myself included when I was one) are fully aware of the contradictions inherent in their visions of god. He is all powerful, yet fails to wipe Satan from existence and save us all. He is all knowing, yet cannot predict the results of giving us free will. He is all loving, yet inflicts trials of hardship, suffering, and tragedy to test our love for him (to spite knowing the outcome).
To many theists god has no problem containing and understanding these obvious contradictions. Rather than admit the problem, they just wave their hands and say “God can do anything” – like that actually answers any question. It seems God’s very nature allows for contradictions, which of course is illogical. Therefore, by extension, God is illogical.