Marcus McElhaney simply won’t give up, I guess because he assumes he’s right. He’s not.

In his latest rebuttal Marcus makes a number of statements displaying his ignorance and stupidity for the world to see. The first is a response to my explanation that the cosmological constants are a representation or reality, and that reality would simply be the way it is without any man made “laws” for it to follow:

I think that you are confusing “law” with “theory” A scientific law is based on models that not just describe realiity but predict reality! Things like the Gravitational Law and the Laws of Motion and Thermodynamics are really things I’d like to see you prove need changing. Now if you are referring to the Theory of Evolution, I agree with you. The theory will change when people wise up.

No Marcus – it is you who is confused, and given your statements about being “well educated in science” at the prestigious Berkeley University. Apparently you “2 degrees in Engineering and 1 degree in information technology.” I am stunned. What are they teaching you there?!

A scientific theory, as you should know, encompasses and explain multiple, observable, and verifiable facts. A scientific law does not include a model or explanation – it is simply an observation. Objects fall at a rate of 9.8 metres per second squared. This is the Law of Gravity. An Observation. It makes no mention of how gravity works (that would be a theory), or where it came from.

As for evolution, it is both a fact and a theory. We know life has changed over time – you just need to look at the fossil record to see that. How it has changed and why is explained by evolutionary theory, which is beyond the scope of this post. I recommend you pick up a copy of “Why Evolution is True” by Jerry Coyne and “The Greatest Show on Earth” by Richard Dawkins (when it’s released), or many of the excellent web sites detailing the evidence (not the apologists who cling to their comforting delusions).

OK, let’s move on

No other religion, with the exceptions of Islam and Judaism say that the universe was created ex nihilo. They discount themselves.

Firstly, we have not yet shown that the universe was created ex nihilo – you are simply assuming that for the benefit of your theology. Secondly (assuming your statement is true for a moment), you have not satisfactory explained why Islam and Judaism have been ruled out. And lastly, you have not shown why the alternative option of an eternal universe is not possible (aside from saying “all scientists believe it started somewhere, so it must be true.”).

Let me give you a tip – when scientists say “the universe began with a big bang” is shorthand for “to the limits of our current ability, it seems the universe was once very small and condensed. We simply do not know what the universe was like beyond a certain limit except by extrapolating the mathematics towards the absolute values of zero and infinity.” It’s really not that hard to understand.

When you look a the attributes of the universe, the creator must be omnipotent and omniscient in order to make it all work!

Why is it absolutely necessary for a creative force to be all powerful and all knowing? Surely being just powerful enough to create the universe and knowledgeable enough to design it would suffice? (although not so knowledgeable that he could predict the results of granting us “free will”). As complex as the universe is, I do not believe the very next step up must be the ultimate expression of power and complexity, so it seems you have some work ahead of you.

And God care about all of his creation. (sic)

Simple question then – where did Hell come from if it were not from God? Remember, according to you bronze age mythology, there was nothing before God was bored on Monday morning.

Christians do not believe that God cares only about humans and not the other parts of creation.

I know what you believe, I am asking why you believe it.

God demands worship not because of vanity but because He deserves it. No less. If you wrote a song or invented a car would you not deserve credit? God is responsible for our very existence, why would you not worship Him. To do otherwise is stupid.

I won’t torture you forever if you don’t like my song, or won’t drive my car. He deserves to be worshipped for threatening people in such ways? Your God is a monster. Thank goodness he does not exist.

You haven’t suggested an position equally tenable. You failed to do so. I only agree with you on one thing. The best Ross can argue is that there is a God who created everything.

Then you have not even listened to the lecture you sent me yourself. Numerous times Dr. Hugh Ross says these things prove the God of the Bible above all others. Now you are down playing the very people you send me who claim to have undeniable evidence of Yahweh.

To get the God of the Bible you need revelation to know more of His character – what He is about. This what the Bible says:

Revelation is not something that can be reproduced, or verified. Only the person why has received revelation could claim divine intervention, and even then they cannot be sure they were not hallucinating, mistaken, or just plain crazy. When these apparent revelations are told to another person, they have no way of knowing if they are being lied to, or if the person genuinely believes what they are saying – and even if they do believe it it does not make it true. Many people swear black and blue they have seen Elvis, or UFO’s, or Michael Jackson in a tree stump, or the Virgin Mary in a pile of bird shit. Doesn’t make any of it true.