Over the past few days I have been addressing the arguments and counter arguments presented by Dr. Hugh Ross in his lecture. The second rebuttal Dr. Ross says he received to his argument from design is:
“We wouldn’t be here to observe the universe unless it had the characteristics we see.”
For illustration he quotes a theological philosopher Richard Swinburne, who equates the argument with the following scenario:
We could take everybody in the audience and put them in the chairs in the front row and give them high powered rifles with telescopic sights. And then we can take one remaining individual in the room and put them right by the podium. And then we instruct all of of you to look down your telescopic sights and kill her by putting a bullet through her heart.
Well, she survives the event and look up at all of you in the front row and says “Well of course, I wouldn’t be here to observe all of you unless you all missed.”
Dr. Ross asserts it’s not rational to believe everyone intended to miss, that somebody “purposed” that the individual would be alive. Somebody designed the universe for the observer to make that observation. This, of course, ignores numerous possible explanations.
Firstly, as I previously demonstrated, the universe is simply the way it is. The mathematical models we use to describe its behaviour have no bearing on the universe itself. The universe would continue to be what it is without any mathematical frameworks to describe it. It does not need underlying mathematics to work or function. It does not need anything to create these mathematical models for it to adhere to. The universe can simply exist according to its own nature.
Secondly, the fact humans are here to witness the universe and try to make sense of it in no way proves an external entity wished it to be this way. Energy, quantum foam, atomic structures, chemical bonds, biochemical reactions, self-replicating molecules, and evolution are natural occurrences. We are the natural product of natural process which have been in motion for at least 14.7 billion years. Conjuring a supernatural entity of account for these events is not a view which can be verified one way or the other, by definition.
Third, some modern cosmological hypothesis postulate a multiverse in which every possible potential combination of values for the cosmological constants exist. While this is an enormous mathematical space in which countless universes do not have the values required for the qualities we see in our own universe (indeed only our universe has these qualities), there are almost certainly other configurations which would support complex structures. It must be said that until these hypothesis can produce a prediction we are capable of actually testing, then believing in such notions is really a matter of faith. I remain agnostic on the situation.
Really, this refutation and Dr. Ross’s reply are no different to the first. The universe doesn’t have cosmological constants – it just is. We determine these values in an effort to understand reality. As such, we are the creators of the cosmological constants.
Tagged with: Cosmological Constants, Dr. Hugh Ross
This week I meet with Aronra in Melbourne for the Global Atheist Convention, and thought it would be a good idea to chat up with Australia’s most popular secular humanist Catholic Father Bob for a chat. Strap yourself in for this one.
On Thursday the 17th May the churches of Tasmania will be hosting an event at the Stanley Burbury Theatre entitled “Excellent Marriage”. According to their web site the event “aims to celebrate the importance and value of marriage for the Australian community”. They say “people from religious and non-religious backgrounds, young and old, are all invited to…
Continue reading
This is a continuation of my reply to Andrew Finden’s “one last philosophical hurrah” post, and addresses the question “why believe there is a god?” It is encouraging to read the opening statement of this section where Andrew admits “that one can cannot prove that God exists”, however he quickly (and rightly) dismisses philosophical materialism…
Continue reading
Those who have been following this blog for a while will, no doubt, recall the various discussions/debates/arguments I have had with Andrew Finden in the past. As frustrating as I find them at times, I think he often tackles interesting and difficult topics with a calm intelligence not very often found in the religious debate. This…
Continue reading
Wayne Swan is currently having meeting to finalise the Australian federal budget. In these tough economic times it is more important than ever to ensure your hard earned tax dollar is being spent in the most effective and efficient manner. In view of this I can think of one poorly thought out federal program which,…
Continue reading
Last weekend I attend the second Global Atheist Convention run by the Atheist Foundation of Australia in Melbourne. The convention attracted over 4,000 attendees to listen to extraordinary line up of world class speakers from a variety of disciplines on a wide range of topics. The convention began with a comedy line up including the brilliantly hilarious…
Continue reading
Last Monday on Australia’s ABC television network the jet-lagged evolutionary biologist Richard Dawkins squared off against Catholic Cardinal George Pell on the “Q and A” program with unimpressive results. A transcript of the entire show can be found in the ABC’s web site. The level of intellectual debate on this episode of Q and A…
Continue reading