Posts Tagged atheist
Atheism About dot Com
Nov 9
Atheism About dot Com posted an article on US Catholic Bishops being scared of atheist groups spring up all over the place. Fair enough I say – what do you do after your career in deception comes to a crashing end?
Anyway, that’s not the reason for my post. The first reply to this article caught my eye. Someone calling themselves “Ken” posted the text below to which I replied, but seeing as though their comment system seems a little screwy I thought I would share it with you here as well.
- Atheism itself is a faith based system.
No. Atheism is the lack of one particular belief. How this can possibly constitute a complete faith based system is beyond me.
- The atheist believe by faith that nothing created everything.
I can only assume this poor deluded individual is referring to the big bang theory which states everything was compressed into an impossibly small point. How everything can suddenly become nothing at all is a question I will leave for the reader. It is interesting to note that many theists also accept the big bang theory – all that is required to do so if you’re a Christian is to treat Genesis as allegory or symbolic. Moreover, the big bang (or any other scientific theory) makes no mention of the supernatural since it strictly deals with reality.
- They know they ain’t no heaven but the y pray there ain’t no hell.
I know no such thing. You have claimed there are these realms but have been unable to provide sufficient evidence to prove your case to anyone who raises a single question.
- As far at the catholic church goes, faced with declining numbers entering the priesthood the standards were relaxed and known homosexuals were allowed into the priesthood.
Pedophiles and the sexually repressed however have been allowed in for years.
- The rule forbidding priests to marry women is often cited as the reason priest molested boys,
By who? Where? I can only speak for myself, but I have never been attracted to young boys if the women were not interested. Is your character so flexible that you can change your nature at will?
- well the priests are having sex with women because they are homosexuals allowed into the church by a pragmatic church government that put money before morality.
What? Why would a homosexual have sex with a woman, and why are you equating homosexuality with pedophilia?
- Ironically the churches stance against homosexuality is cited as the reason the young are staying away.
Now you are really losing the plot.
- Maybe it simply that they do not want to molested by a homosexual pervert dressed in a roman collar.
Maybe more and more young people are receiving decent education and seeing the church for what it really is – a wealthy, political powerhouse preaching abstinence, humility, constraint, purity and self denial while it hordes billions and spreads misinformation and death across the globe.
- The homosexuals also did a nice job of covertly getting homos in the church and destroying it from within…a deal made in hell by them both.
Frankly, I think the church fucked itself by demonstrating amoral behaviour, bigotry, violence, intolerance, cruelty, and hypocrisy since it was founded. I will not weep when it dies.
Ray Comfort is up to his usual tricks. In his latest post he ignores the argument at hand to head off on his usual tangent – let’s have a look.
A reader asks:
“A man rapes and murders a twelve year old atheist girl; brutally tortures her for weeks then slowly murders her. Afterwards he regrets his action and repents and trusts in Christ for salvation he will have eternal Bliss. Meanwhile his little victim will be damned to hell because he murdered her before she found Christ. That is what your God says . . . Even the very rapist murderers I despise so much are a million times more moral than the cruel storm God who rewards them for no greater deed than asking his forgiveness . . . ” Ryk
To which Ray responds:
It seems that nothing angers an atheist like the thought that any murdering child molester could be forgiven by God. It is normal for him to create a scenario such as the above, where the girl goes to Hell and the monster goes to Heaven. Then sparks are spat at God, because in his mind He is the real evil One in the story, because He is unjust.
Ray, it’s not that God is the real evil character in this story, it is that he has configured a system which permits rapists and murderers to receive the eternal bliss of Heaven while their victims are condemned to eternal suffering. This is held up by believers as the pinnacle of morality – something to which we should all aspire.
If we were to build a society based on these values, then rapists and murderers would be granted a life long stay at a 5 star tropical paradise resort if they were truly sorry for their actions and asked for forgiveness. Their victims (assuming they are still alive) would be tossed into the street and ignored. This is justice?
The fact you actually believe this is perfect, moral, ethical, and just indicates you actually have no morality whatsoever.
But why is the atheist so angry at God (whom he doesn’t believe exists). It is because the atheist intuitively demands justice. As a rational human being he has the moral Law stamped on his conscience. That’s why. It’s not his “social conditioning” that caused the outrage. Every sane human being has a God-given conscience no matter what he is taught by society. No other creature other than man has this–not apes, dogs, cattle, sheep goats, fish, horses or cats. Only human beings seek justice, and demand retribution for that which is considered evil. What the professing atheist thinks is his greatest argument against God, is his greatest argument for God.
No Ray, I don’t believe God exists – not even the barbaric character of Yahweh as portrayed in the Bible. The point here is that if such a character existed he would certainly not be moral or just. I do not need to believe Batman’s Joker exists in order to make judgements on his character.
Other animals exhibit behaviour which we may label fair, just, or altruistic (as the video in my previous post illustrates). This type of behaviour completely undoes your assertion that no other creature has a conscience.
There are perfectly rational ways in which morality can evolve within a species, but no doubt you would reject those in favour of your predetermined bias – God gave us morality and no amount of evidence will persuade you otherwise. This is exactly the hypocritical closed mindedness you accuse atheists of.
If Atheists Ruled the World
Mar 30
